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Offline KittiesSong

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Would any of you ever consider...?
« on: June 08, 2014, 12:29:47 PM »
Would any one here consider using a professional sports massage therapist for canines? In particular for your SDs? The benefits are as numerous as they are to humans, it's calming, helps prevent injury while working, and improve mobility and range of motion, particularly in older individuals. The reason I ask is because I am trying to get an idea of what kind of market there is out there for canine and equine sports massage. I am looking into a program to possibly become an animal massage therapist as it is my life's passion to help animals and I love giving massages and knowing I am making an animal feel better! Since the SD is a working animal I feel like they would especially benefit from regular massage therapy. Given that the average SD works several hours a day and sometimes has to work in small spaces or high stress environments it would only make sense to offer them working massages to help them keep on working and reduce injury risk for high impact work.

I say all this to ask: would you use a sport massage therapist on any sort of regular basis as a preventative for your SD or other working (or nonworking) animal?
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 12:57:57 PM »
I would if he needed it. We got a free massage from a dog masseuse at a dog event last year and my dog loved it! When he needs it I would definitely consider it. There are a few around where I live - but I live in a major metro area with a strong market for alternative therapies. Massage also has done wonders for a few of the horses in the barn I ride at, too.

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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 01:23:21 PM »
Massage works wonders! I would use it! But as I am always as broke as a joke..... I would learn to do it myself!

Do check with your vet to make sure there are no issues that could exacerbated by massage first!
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 04:42:12 PM »
I think the major problem is that the majority of people with disabilities live at or below the poverty level so that affording this service might not be within their reach, even if the can see value in it.

Would I want it for Tardis if I could afford it?  Absolutely.  But it is very doubtful I could afford it.  I do take my dogs to veterinary chiropractors and acupuncturists on an as-needed basis.  That's the way massage would have to be too.  Not for maintenance or prevention, but for treatment of a specific injury.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 04:47:34 PM »
I couldn't afford it.  I would do my best to come up with the money if it was really necessarily, like to treat a particular illness, but just as a regular thing, I can't afford massage therapy for myself (and it would help a lot with my fibro) and I can't afford it for Isaac, either.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 04:52:13 PM »
What if it became available at a lower price point? I know that typically you can charge 80 to 100 per hour per animal but what if it was only like 25 an hour instead? I know what it's like to be very poor, there were times I wasn't sure where my next meal was coming from but being able to help out people who need it most would be far more important than getting rich.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 06:42:04 PM »
Sadly even at 25 an hour, for us it would be treatment only.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 09:23:03 PM »
$25. per hour!!!!   :wow2: :hysterical:  That's highway robbery! Who on earth has that much money to spare????
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 10:34:54 PM »
Well... I want to help. maybe once I get off the ground I can offer work on a sliding scale like doctors do. Who knows! I think SDs could really benefit from monthly massages  :sad: but I do know many people have a thousand and one other things they have to pay for.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2014, 09:19:46 AM »
I'd be more likely to do it for $25 but still.... I am on a really tight budget.  I rarely have an extra $25.  When I do, there is a long list of things I need to spend money on - currently, I need to get the oil changed in my car and buy new tires, I need to get some more iron supplements, I need to get a new pair of gym shoes before fall (right now I have only sandals and I must have other shoes before the weather gets cold), I would love to get a massage myself (had one three weeks ago and it helped my pain a lot but I just can't afford it on any type of regular basis), I have a tooth that is bothering me and need to see the dentist but can't afford that, etc.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2014, 09:55:52 PM »
I need regular massage for my arthritic neck and I have a toothache too. I can't afford to pay for my own needs. I doubt I would ever pay for a massage for Gio unless I win the lottery. If needed, I would get vet care and have the vet show me how to do the massage.
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Re: Would any of you ever consider...?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2014, 10:40:47 PM »
With the caveat that I cannot afford these types of services currently I would just love to take my two elderly kitties to a animal chiropractor or massage therapist. The both have arthritis to some degree, Spike's seems worse but that is because his medium length hair gets caught on his teeth when he is chewing over joints due to pain. They are both free fed dry kibble that is a senior formula containing Glucosamine and Chondroitin. It seems to work well, at least for Spike who has stopped chewing his joints (and fleas), and let his hair have a chance to grow back.

The only real issue I would have (besides the price tag), is: Hobbes is not a social cat, she is a one person cat, and stress shows every time she goes to the vet, and the few times I took her to the groomer. She is elderly and doesn't deserve getting stressed out just to get the benefit from the therapy - as it would be a wash in the long run. I think Spike might adapt to a warm water soak and swim, but Hobbes, again, was traumatized with water - small child "washed" the young kitties in the only water vessel he could reach - the toilet. So she hates baths, showers or being spritzed with Essential oils mixed with water.

Max has a slight 'hitch in his giddiaup'  and having him see a chiropractor or masseuse might help that. Max also has a very long back in proportion to his legs, which makes it difficult for him to sometimes "jump" up on various furniture from the sofa to beds, If he doesn't get the right amount of spring, he ends up slamming his chest against the side of the object he wants to get on top of. That has got to leave a bit if a twist in his spine.

So the short answer is - Yes. If I could afford these services for my pets, I would make use of them, especially as they age. If my pet was to have a traumatic event happen such as a car accident or cancer: again I would have to weigh cost I could afford, vs quality of life vs pain.

When I adopted Spike I promised him that I would keep him as pain free as I could manage, and to make the hard decision should I be in a situation where he has increasing pain and no relief for it. I wanted him to finish out his life with a handler who loved him. He had spent 20 years with his first owner who had to move to a nursing home - and there was no one to take Spike in.

The Vet we have taken family dogs to has expanded over the years and currently has 5 vets, and at one time they had an Eye specialist as part of their roster, Hobbes had her eyes tested for glaucoma by him the first time,  and she has been tested in subsequent years to see how her eyes are doing and if I need to use the timoptic again. I had Spike tested when I lived up in Pittsburgh along with Hobbes. I have not been able to afford the yearly vax and check-up, and it rained this weekend when a local rescue in conjunction with Kibblez of Love pet food bank was scheduled to hold an event with $2 rabies shots from 9:30 to 10:30, but it absolutely poured the night before and I had to decide if I was going and arrange a ride - I most slow, and it isn't worth me getting sick.

If I need to take them in before my budget for vet care is full enough then, I will take them all to a local humane society. It is offering  for adult dogs, a $55 package with heartworm occult testing and shots;, and includes 6 in 1,  Rabies, Distemper, Hepatitis (Adenovirus type 2), Parainfluenza, Parvo, Leptospirosis, Bordatella and deworming. Without the heartworm testing the cost is $45 for all the vaccines and deworming. The Adult Cat package is also $55 for FVRCP (Feline Viral Rhinotracheitis (FVR), Calicivirus, Panleukopenia and Chlamydia), rabies vaccine and deworming. 

I just saw on their website that Greenacres and Lake Worth residents can get free spay or neuter (regular cost is $45 for cats, $150 for dogs).  I also think Kibblez of Love pet food bank is willing to help people afford to get their pet spayed or neutered.

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2014, 09:25:52 AM »
For $25/hour I'd do that with Ada if it included ESAs as well as SDs. I know ESAs don't do the whole "walk with you everywhere" thing, so people wouldn't necessarily want to, but it's worth mentioning.

(Of course there are things like transportation, because I'd also be getting myself massage and acupuncture regularly, but I can't afford the local massage place, and the cheap one (the teaching place where the students at the end of school are the people giving massages), isn't easy to get to anymore))
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2014, 09:56:38 AM »
I think you're asking the wrong group of people. As mentioned, a lot of disabled individuals work on a tight budget. You'll probably have a different response if you asked a group of wealthy pet owners. I would ask this question in Flyball or Agility groups. While SDs could definitely benefit from preventative massages there are also other groups of active dogs who could benefit and who's owners are more likely to be able to afford it.

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 03:40:43 PM »
Well I intend to target both because I am also going to be doing equine massage which can be quite lucrative. I'm not in this to make a lot of money, I'm getting in it because I want to help people, and if that means traveling to people's homes and offering deeply discounted or even free massages when I can afford it then that is what I would like to do.
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