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i have fake rubber sticks we throw for our dogs. large balls and soccer balls.
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should anyone want to re-hear or read the comments to that NPR program - local to LA CA: here is the link:

http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2016/09/26/52348/airlines-plan-new-regulations-for-service-animals/

I never know who knows what and assume sharing info that I didnt know or find out yet may interest some one else too... any how.

best
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The fifth meeting of that committee has already met September 21-23
https://www.transportation.gov/access-advisory-committee

This is very early in the process and really of interest only to those who live in the Washington D.C. Area.  They're still a minimum of a year away from making any changes to the ACAA regulations and there will be a public comment period before they do.  That public comment period is when we give input.

This committee will advise the DOT which will write up it's first draft called the "Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" (NPRM) which will be published in the Federal Register.  At that time there will be a call for public comment, which will be posted on the forum.  Everyone can see the proposed wording of the changes and where to send their comments.

Then the DOT will spend a few months reading all the comments, considering them, addressing them (either agreeing or disagreeing with them) and then they will publish their Final Rule (FR), which is the changed regulatory law.

What do we know?  We know the DOT is pro-ESA to the point of considering adding them for all public transportation, not just aircraft.  Too pro-ESA in fact.  They're the ones who created the confusion about the differences between ESAs and PSDs way back in 2002.  To this day it is unclear that the DOT understands the difference.  They've created the most massively abused regulation concerning service animals and ESAs in the world.  And then in an attempt to fix it, I think around 2009, they discriminated against those with mental illness based disabilities by separating them out from other disabilities and treating them less favorably.

This is another attempt to fix the problem.  Yes, more regulation is needed, desperately.  It's about time.  I'd be very pleased if they once and for all ruled on the companies selling ESA letters over the Internet.  I'd be pleased to see some limitations on species, perhaps what the DOJ had in their first draft of the 2008 changes to the ADA.  Exclude non-human primates, farm animals and exotic animals.  Require toilet training as a condition of access and that animals be harnessed, leashed, or caged and under control.  Some clarity about animals in laps during take off and landing since that conflicts with other laws.

The way the system is set up now, very few who actually use emotional support animals are going to make it through the gauntlet to use one while the system leans hard to favor celebrities who want to travel with pets.

They also need to make the letter absolutely clear that the individual is DISABLED by mental illness, not just diagnosed with a mental illness.

But again, the time for public comment is not yet here.  Sending comments now won't change anything.
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the local NPR news just mentioned what I assume most of the well-informed veterans here already know but in case anyone wanted to either attend or contact someone to provide them YOUR side, info, opinion, here is the Google site from which you pick where you want to inquire or add into.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=service+dogs+conference+airlines+sept+2016

Or are the well-experienced and well-versed folk here already 'on it' ? and then, if so, did I miss that post ? or want to remind us of what is being well advocated-- or what some 'activists' can contribute to those who 'don't hear well'  -- as many industries with profits and corporate interests tend to be less  "for the customers and Public Good" than for their own interests & profits.

just sayin'
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: PLEASE DON'T throw sticks
« Last post by BearNeccessity on September 26, 2016, 10:02:39 AM »
Yeah, I really hope that dog is okay  :sad: I didn't know better as a kid and let my childhood dog chase/chew sticks. She loved them. The worst thing that happened was she managed to snap one in such a way that the broken piece got lodged in her upper palate, stuck between teeth. She freaked out, but it was fine. Got it out, no vet needed.
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Still don't like sticks, but my dogs enjoy chewing on them when they're outside so I don't discourage them from chewing.

Actually, even chewing can be dangerous, because if the wood breaks or splinters in the dog's mouth, they could end up choking on a small piece of wood or with a very uncomfortable splinter.

Dogs have been chewing on sticks for as long as dogs and sticks have existed together. None of my dogs are aggressive chewers and I see no reason to discourage them from doing something natural and instinctive as long as I can supervise them, and their chewing style doesn't put them at risk for swallowing chunks or breaking off large pieces.

To each his own. I don't personally see a danger in stick chewing given the nature of the wood in my area, and my dogs' chew styles. Once the dog gets his saliva all over the wood, it becomes saturated and spongey so I'm not too worried about splinters. I'm not saying stick chewing is safe for every dog in every area, but I feel comfortable allowing my own dogs to chew the sticks in our own yard. I wouldn't take the same risk with a dog I wasn't familiar with. Like rawhide, it's all about knowing your individual dog and how they chew.

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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: PLEASE DON'T throw sticks
« Last post by ksknight on September 25, 2016, 10:41:20 AM »
Jeez. I knew sticks could splinter and in general be unsafe for dogs to play with, but I didn't think about how it could impale the dog. I don't let my dogs play with sticks. I hope that dog is okay.
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: PLEASE DON'T throw sticks
« Last post by PaperVoice24 on September 25, 2016, 09:03:41 AM »
Still don't like sticks, but my dogs enjoy chewing on them when they're outside so I don't discourage them from chewing.

Actually, even chewing can be dangerous, because if the wood breaks or splinters in the dog's mouth, they could end up choking on a small piece of wood or with a very uncomfortable splinter.
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When I toss sticks, I throw them a few feet away and low so it's laying flat on the ground when dog grabs it and it's not in the air long enough for them to go after it. Still don't like sticks, but my dogs enjoy chewing on them when they're outside so I don't discourage them from chewing.

I do discourage them from running and playing with sticks and antlers. I watched one of my dogs running through the yard full tilt with a deer antler with a second smaller dog leaping at his mouth trying to grab the antler. Gave me the jeebies. Keep in mind, I don't cut my antlers into tiny hunks. I cut them down if they're more than a foot long, but otherwise my dogs get them exactly as they fell off the deer, points and all, so very unsafe to be running around with. Sticks and antlers are sit-down chew toys.
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: PLEASE DON'T throw sticks
« Last post by punstersquared on September 25, 2016, 01:36:57 AM »
For that matter, if your dog likes to catch thrown objects, don't use small balls like tennis balls, either. If the dog opens their mouth a bit too much and the ball is the right size, they can get lodged in the back of the dog's throat and choke them. Make sure that the ball is too big for this to happen, or use a soft Frisbee.
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