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The article states:

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On March 31, 2013, the Disability Assistance Dogs (DAD) secured the Studentís service dog named Jasper (Jasper) for initial training. Service dog training as an industry does not have any nationally sanctioned standards or protocols for trainers to follow or meet.  The dog passed the temperament test for service dogs while at the shelter.  The DAD used a reward system to train Jasper.  Further, the DAD provided Jasper with over 450 hours of training over a 10 month period of time beginning on this date.

So the pulled a rescue dog from a shelter.  Some shelter pups have the temperament to be a SD, but very few do.  Then the dog was only given ten months of training???
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: Tia is limping
« Last post by tuffystar on Today at 12:03:10 AM »
Thank you Robin.  I have started a fund in gofundme.com  We had one donation so far.  I am finding therapy to be an expensive and shaky proposition.  I think when the time is right I will find the right therapy for me.
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It's obvious that Jasper the dog was not properly educated to tolerate wheelchairs. Granted the teacher seemed to have a hostile attitude toward Jasper, and I'll bet you the dog was picking up on that.

If it were just the wheelchair spooking him, it would be easy to find that out and retrain the dog a bit. If it were the human in the chair, then you have more of   a problem. Granted the dog may be reacting to a hostile attitude, but this isn't good in terms of his public manners. He may or may not be able to be rehabilitated from that.
People can have hostile attitudes towards dogs or be genuinely afraid of them, and if you have a dog that is reactive, it's going to bark and growl. They DO pick up on emotions like that, and only the most successful SDs can ignore reacting to such.

What got me is the teacher claimed to have all sorts of training experience, yet I saw nothing mentioned of her offering to help train the dog to be more tolerant of her wheelchair.

I've had a couple of times where dogs (pets outside with their owners walking) have been a little spooked about my scooter, and I've offered to stop and let the dogs look and sniff at it. Both times after getting the chance to check it out, I've gotten wagging tails, and the dogs even accepted a few treats from me. Both owners were really appreciative of it as well. Next time those dogs see a scooter, they won't be spooked by it, and may even hope to get a treat from the one riding on it.

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That was painful to read, and I am ashamed of the state. Bad enough, regardless of IDEAs and IEPs, that schools are so tolerant of such young children who can't steward a dog, much less such an obviously aggressive, reactive, and poorly-trained dog, but that they must also have 24/7 on campus assistance solely because of a dog, and at who's expense? I feel for the teacher, who has ever right to be afraid of a dog, a black lab, SD or not, that shows such blatant vicious behavior, for her sake in the chair and for the safety of her other students, her biggest priority. I'd be afraid if a lab barked at my chair in an aggressive way. I know that SD laws in public schools can be sketchy, and I have dodged comment on this story up until now, but how terrible that the teacher lost her job and the school and school board were berated all because the parents couldn't handle the fact that... seizure dog or not... the dog was no longer fit to be a public access service dog and their child's savior and cure-all. Sorry but I make no, not one single nanogram of an excuse, for a SD that shows no only blatant aggression, but repetitive open aggression. No mitigation is worth putting the lives and safety of others at risk.

Things from the old discussion that were clarified:

The teacher's SD did not start the barking, but did continue beyond a single response bark, why, who knows, maybe reacting to the fear aggressive bark from the kid's SD who was reacting to a door banging against a wall or such object.


"the Mother accompanied the Student and Jasper to the other half of the Studentís classes, including art taught by HP. No incidents with the Student and Jasper were observed."
one week later...
"The art teacher, HP, opened the door to the art classroom suddenly and the door hit the wall loudly and Jasper barked causing HPís service dog Illinois State Board of Education in the art class room to bark. The Student successfully redirected Jasper and he sat as directed while the service dog in the room continued to bark. As a result of the continued barking from HPís service dog, Para 2 escorted the Student and Jasper back to the 2nd grade classroom. HP commented within earshot of the Student, ďThatís no way a service dog is supposed to act.Ē When the Principal contacted the Parent, the Parent indicated surprise that HP had a service dog in the room. The Parentís uncontroverted testimony reflected the Principal had assured the Parent that the Principal would instruct HP not to have the service dog present during the Student and Jasperís first days at school."

Admittance to multiple incidents of the kid's SD being openly aggressive.

"Jasper barked and lunged at HPís wheelchair pulling the Student on Jasperís harness" and "The dog barked or growled at HP and the Principal took Jasper and the Student into the computer lab"

As for crating... if an SD needs a crate in order to be part of a classroom, or any other average public sphere aside from mass transit travel, there is an issue.
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: Tia is limping
« Last post by Qamapak on Yesterday at 04:36:54 PM »
I'm so sorry Tia is injured and you and your husband are under such stress. I hope your vet can work out a plan for payment and maybe even give you a reduction. I don't know whether you did any fund raising to get Tia but many folks here have had good ideas in that regard. Perhaps you can contact someone at United Way to ask them who, in your community might help. Maybe your vet or the pet stores in town would be willing to let you put a donation box with your story and some pictures of Tia.....

Under these circumstances, it's really easy to catastrophize, as in, I will lose my dog and my husband will leave me and I'll end up as a bag lady. Try to catch youself when you find yourself doing that. It really saps your coping energy.

I think it's a real mistake to think you do better without therapy. Certainly you are doing better without bad therapy. I highly recommend DBT. It has nothing to do with going back over old stuff. It has to do with building skills to move forward and live a happier more productive life. If someone at your commnity mental health center does this kind of work, I really encourage you to try it.

Hugs for all of you. This is indeed hard stuff.
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Here's a copy of the court documents which confirm that the dog barked/growled and lunged at the art teacher so hard it dragged the student along.

https://localtvwqad.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/click-here-to-read-the-illinois-board-of-education-decision-regarding-jasper-the-sherrard-service-dog1.pdf
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Health & Maintenance (publicly viewable board) / Re: Tia is limping
« Last post by tuffystar on December 19, 2014, 11:21:53 PM »
Thanks so much.  The vet says she may have some more work years ahead if all goes well and we don't wait too long.  If we wait too long arthritis develops more and more than that decreases her success.  Kevin and I had a talk and money is really getting to him and he hasn't been able to destress by fishing all year.  We set a plan in motion to cut back on expenses and set up a possible way for him to fish once in awhile.  We promised again that we won't use the "D" word (divorce) unless we are ready to sign the papers (which should be never).  After some tears and a lot of talk we are ok.  After 21 years of marriage you would think we would remember stuff like that.  Oh well things are hard but better between us.
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This seems to be a growing trend with parents of children with health problems.
Get the kid a service dog! All the troubles go away.

Granted, parents want to do the very best for their children, but many don't quite get everything having an SD involves.
Those young children aren't ready to steward a dog on their own, and problems arise from that.

Agreed. Another problem I see arising from this, is the kids growing up and not learning how to be able to cope without an SD. It is not always going to be an option, and when they are left without anything to help them, what will they do?
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In the News (publicly viewable board) / School takes steps to allow guide dog
« Last post by responsiblek9 on December 19, 2014, 10:40:53 PM »
http://www.centralkitsapreporter.com/news/286153301.html
School takes steps to allow guide dog
Central Kitsap Reporter-9 hours agoShare
School officials will take steps to allow a guide dog in-training to remain in a ... But if I am going to try to demonstrate to you that having a service dog in the ...
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http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S3655009.shtml?cat=565

Assemblyman Morelle writes letter on service dog for student
News 10NBC-12 hours agoShare
We continue to track the story of a young girl and her service dog in the Gates-Chili School District. Now, a local state assemblyman is asking ...
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