Article 2 years old and still it pisses me off!

[AshertoAsher]

*sigh*

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/01/when-we-first-r.html#comments

[W]e oppose most seeing-eye-dog programs because the dogs are bred as if there are no equally intelligent dogs literally dying for homes in shelters, they are kept in harnesses almost 24/7, people are prohibited from petting or playing with them and they cannot romp and run and interact with other dogs; and their lives are repeatedly disrupted (they are trained for months in one home and bond, then sent to a second, and after years of bonding with the person they have "served," they are whisked away again because they are old and no longer "useful").

[Roxie]

I think their beliefs and what they do are cult-like. Dangerous group. 

Roxie

[Gretl2009]

Not many people know this but the Anti-Defamation League as well as certain governmental agencies have PETA on the list of "home grown terrorist" groups and they, along with their members, and anyone who gives them a donation are watched very carefully. 

It's a shame because their basic premise, which is to denounce puppy mills, to prevent animal cruelty and prosecute animal cruelty, became seriously distorted.  Their belief is that every domesticated animal be neutered/spay at the age of 6 months.  At first glance, that's a great idea, until you think for just a minute -- that would mean that within a span of 20 years all dogs and cats would be extinct.  They believe that any and all animals are better off "free" to roam rather than in the "slavery" of ownership by humans.  So, until the extinction happens, all of these dogs and cats and ferrets and gerbils will be running around, getting hit by cars, and spreading disease. 

And when sweet little Aunt Edna sends them $10 out of her retirement check once a year because she thinks she is helping the cute little puppies and kittens find homes, she is really supporting a terrorist group.  And that gets little Aunt Edna on the list of people who support terrorism. 

And that statement in the press by them is just so dangerous to those of us who have a canine partner.  I am always vigilant of my surroundings because you never know when a PETA sympathizer or member is going to confront you.  The one thing that do is they seem to prey on the disabled that are most vulnerable.  Too cowardly to confront those of us who could fight back. 

[Magesteff]

PETA always has struck me as being a little too anrgy with the possibility of violence for me to be comfortable with them as a group. I donate my money to local humae shelters where I can see my dollars ar work getting dogs, cats and rabbits adopted.

My other favorite charities are the Red Cross and Salvation Army.

[responsiblek9]

 

I think the PETA people live in a fairytale land of ho-hum wild animals dont have disruptions and anxieties or stress.... YEA RIGHT....
Life as a stray or feral is no picnic.  Continuously getting disturbed by various incidences by predators or competitors. Having no real safe environment. Food comes from various sources with the anxiety of can they find it today? Disruptions in where can we sleep tonight because predators found the place where we sleep or had the pups at. Life is very unstable for a creature having to scrounge for itself. An injury or illness can cause them to starve to death.

If we left a dog in the natural condition that a wild dog or coyote is often in . We would be charged with animal abuse...
Wormy, sick , mangy, with heartworms ,  skinny, hungry without easy access to food. Water not freely available all the time in a 24 hour period ( frozen in winter, drought in summer).

There is a reason wild animals in captivity live a lot longer than the same animal would in the wild. The average coyote is lucky to live to 5 n the wild. But in captivity lives well into their late teens.

But the extreme animal rights people dont care about that. They see us humans as the plague on the face of the earth and if people went extinct they would see that as a blessing on the rest of the earth.
And they see our domestic animals as perversions on the face of the earth that ought to die out too.

[robbertbobbert]

People are sometimes amazed that I, as a vegetarian, can not STAND peta. They have no idea what they're talking about and should just shut their collective mouth.

[Amber]

PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals?) annoys me to no end.  My first encounter was when they were trying to regulate the keeping of rabbits - thinking that they should all be house rabbits or roam free or I'm not sure what.

My second encounter was at the Cody Stampede (rodeo).  I helped out with the steers and calves, loading them into the pens in the correct order, and then releasing them into the chute, again, in the correct order.  Now, the calves were pretty nice for the most part, but the steers...they were a handful.  In morning runs, when no one was watching, we could hit the steer, yell at them, and even kick them (as if I could kick hard enough to hurt a steer!).  They hit and kicked right back at us.  One kicked a gate that slammed me in the jaw, another kicked a few inches from my face, close enough to knock my hat off.

The night of the Stampede, everything changed.  Well, the steer didn't change, they were still mad and grumpy, but we couldn't use sticks, couldn't touch the steer, etc.  Because of PETA members in the audience (I'm sure they weren't too happy about the roping/wrestling/etc. but well, that is what happens at a rodeo).  So we had to talk and wave our hands to convince the steer to do what we wanted to.  Well, the steer figured out pretty quick that we weren't going to hit back...dumb cows!

And that is my experience with PETA.

[Magesteff]

One summer when I was a teenager, I went to the racing stable my grandmother was a bookkeeper at. They sometimes kicked the horses to get them to either release a breath that they were holding so that the grooms could cinch the girth correctly (horse releases breath, girth gets loose, rider ends up on the ground), or when the horse steps on a toe  and then leans on it.

Horses kick and nip each other, humans can't kick anywhere near hard enough (usually) to do more than just get the horse's attention.

On the other hand, I heard a story from a Vet at a teaching Vet hospital I worked at. The story was about a professor who was teaching during an era when anestesia was just beginning to be used in Vet surgeries. The Professor showed the students how he put the horse out for surgery, by hauling off and stiking the horse  behind the ear and the students (one of whom was now a late middle aged professor relating the story) watched as the horse fell down, knocked out cold. Doubt any Vet would be able to get away with that method now.

[FrostedAcres]

Steffany- thats the '2x4' method of anesthesia!

[Amber]

When a horse steps on my foot, you better believe that it is going to be pushed, hit, or yelled at!

[robbertbobbert]

Well, the steer figured out pretty quick that we weren't going to hit back...dumb cows!

Pretty sure that makes them rather intelligent...

[Spectrum]

I've always been told to be very careful about PETA at dog shows too.

[Amber]

Pretty sure that makes them rather intelligent...

True!

[Stephanimal]

I had a horse bite me--I swatted, missed the horse who hit her head on a beam...you know she has never offered to bite me since.

A child disciplined at home (spanking, grounding and ect) behaves in public.

Spray bottle squirted at cat scratching on furniture works fairly well.

Bulls are not typically put under to be castrated neither are goats.

Sometimes old fashion methods are better...and still humane, but cost effective too.

[robbertbobbert]

A child disciplined at home (spanking, grounding and ect) behaves in public.

I guarantee you this is not always true. Often not true, actually.