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where can I find a good place for my dog?
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:38:25 AM »
 :smile: We are a Rover Rescue Foster Parent Family and  are looking for a good program for our dog “Bear”, 2 year old Sheppard-Husky-Lab mix, 55 pounds, whom we adopted from a litter which we fostered.  We recognized very early that Bear is a quick learner and has always been looking for an advanced challenge. She has been raised in a family of four with two active children and has developed many skills and interests that have led us to believe that she is definitely a dog who wants to serve and help others.
Bear is a certified therapy dog, through the Therapy Dog International program. She is a very loving and obedient dog.  Some of her strengths include agility, one-one connections and the ability to learn and follow new commands quickly.  Her loyalty has been proven time and time again as a watch dog and a protective guardian, letting you know if something is not right.
Bear is a well trained dog and stays by you without a leash; she has never run off and is always eager to please. This has allowed her to participate in many active sports, such as 5K runs, biking and long distance walks. Last summer she attended many sports activities where she made many friends and has proven to us that she is very social.  As a TDI certified dog, she currently visits a special needs live-in facility every other week to help students overcome fears and frustrations. Recently, she helped a young man overcome his fear of being on a bike to practice his motor skills.  After many failed attempts by the therapists, Bear sat with him on the modified bike and allowed him to feel safe while riding. He is now able to ride with supervision, thanks to Bear’s efforts.
Bear is at a point in her life where we feel she is able to move on and help others.  We want to reach out and help others in need of her ability.   :biggrin:

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 12:50:55 PM »
Good dog! Bear!  Also: welcome to the group!

Have you thought about placing Bear as an Emotional Support Animal for a Senior Citizen or person with mental illness or other handicapping condition? Also maybe a skilled companion dog to help a child with Autism connect with his/her environment and facilitate independence?

Is that what you were thinking about?

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 01:21:02 PM »
yes exactly, jsut don't know where to start looking. I ahve emailed a few places but they haven't gotten back to me. do you know off any?

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 03:54:37 PM »
Programs don't tend to take donated dogs.  Instead of trying to get a placement for this dog in a service program, you need to find him a good home.  His odds are very slim at making it on the SD road while, with his therapy backgraound, his odds of succeeding in a family home would be excellent.

Many programs are breeding their own dogs because it significantly increases their success rates.  They are able to control a large number of genetic factors and make solid predictions on how well a dog will hold up physically over a working life.  It is not practical to put two years of training into a dog to become a service dog just to have him have to retire after one year of work due to a health problem.

Paws with a Cause did a study of 10 years of their intakes which they selected from shelters.  The net result of this study was that fewer than one dog in a hundred was able to meet their initial requirements for temperament and health and actually complete training to be placed as a service dog.  When they switched to breeding in house, their success rate among the dogs they produced themselves rose to seven successes in eight.  That's more than a significant improvement.

Of those programs that do use rescues, they have their sources picked out.  They choose those sources that consistently produce the sorts of dogs they are looking for.  When you deal with "Joe" from Acme Rescue, whom you've known for years and you trust Joe's ability to evaluate dogs, and he recommends one, you've probably got a keeper.  But when you deal with "Tom," a total stranger, from an organization you've never heard of, or from no organization at all, you have no way of knowing what you are dealing with and whether they are competent.

Lots and lots of rescues find a nice dog and think that a service placement would be just perfect because this dog needs a home and some disabled person needs a helper.  But it just plain isn't that simple.  The vast majority of these dogs that rescuers, knowing nothing whatever about service dog selection and training, think are ideal, are not suitable.  They look at a dog who is sweet and affectionate, and I, as a service dog trainer am looking for one who is a bit hyper, a bit aloof, a bit destructive....  I don't need sweet in a service dog, I need determined, a bit stubborn even.  I don't need a dog who will comfort the handler who can't get the door open, I need a dog who won't give up until he gets that door open.

While some people with service dogs do also volunteer as pet therapy partners, all that the two groups of dogs really share in common is good socialization and manners.  I can take any nice pet dog with good manners and temperament and turn it into a therapy dog in 8 weeks.  If I take the same dog and try to turn it into a service dog, I'm almost certain to fail and it will take me 18-24 months to prove it.

So the best thing you can do for your dog is focus on finding a good pet home.  There are plenty of people I've noticed lately expressing an interest in doing therapy dog volunteering and asking questions about what kind of dog to get.  So there is a market for the specific kind of dog you have, rather than trying to put him onto a career path that probably isn't going to be a good fit.

In short, his odds of finding a good pet home are significantly higher than his odds of finding a placement as a service dog.  So that's where you should focus your efforts.
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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 07:03:32 PM »
Thanks for the info, I did kind off know that, but thought it never hurts to ask. Also, I am hoping to find someone who will continue with the TD is hard as well, since TDI doesn't really have any meetings etc they hold to meet other TD. So I was hoping that maybe in here is someone who knows someone or is interested themselves. Kind off oping up a discussion. I know SD are very expensive and not everyone can afford one. So I think there should be a market out there for someone with a need for her that got rejected by the SD service.  I am also trying to find a program for retired soldiers that need a companion. I am looking for lots of ideas. Thanks everyone.

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 07:47:28 PM »
If you'd like, you can PM me the dog's info (I think you can PM after 5 posts?) and I can look for someone interested in a dog to do therapy work with. I have connections all over the US, so it might help to get his info out there
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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 09:03:34 PM »
Loved to but don't know what PM is. is it 5 diffrent postings or do replays count?

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 09:57:07 PM »
 :trx: You can always try the prison programs that are coordinated with rescues who work with them.  . If a dog passes their evals they train them for therapy or SD or place them as  well trained pets.  :paw:
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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 10:10:43 PM »
Loved to but don't know what PM is. is it 5 diffrent postings or do replays count?

PM is private message, and you have 6 posts now so you should have the ability - replies do count towards your post count.

If you click on my name, it takes you to my profile. On the left side is my avatar (my dog's picture), and below that it has some options, one of which is "send private message". Click that and you can send me a message :smile:
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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 10:20:23 PM »
It is denieing me access:(

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 10:21:45 PM »
when you click on my name, can you see my email?

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It is denieing me access:(

Ahhhh, I just checked and it's actually 50 posts.

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011, 09:23:15 PM »
I know SD are very expensive and not everyone can afford one. So I think there should be a market out there for someone with a need for her that got rejected by the SD service. 
Actually, many SD organizations do place their dogs with individuals free of charge; the recipient only pays for transportation and other expenses involved in actually going and getting the dog, as well as care of the dog for the rest of the life of the dog.  I would be cautious placing a dog with someone who has been turned down by one of these organizations, they usually have good reason.

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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011, 11:49:26 PM »
Actually, many SD organizations do place their dogs with individuals free of charge; the recipient only pays for transportation and other expenses involved in actually going and getting the dog, as well as care of the dog for the rest of the life of the dog.

Don't a number of organizations also require the recipient to undertake some form of fundraising activities?
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Re: where can I find a good place for my dog?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2011, 12:25:59 AM »
Actually, many SD organizations do place their dogs with individuals free of charge; the recipient only pays for transportation and other expenses involved in actually going and getting the dog, as well as care of the dog for the rest of the life of the dog.

Don't a number of organizations also require the recipient to undertake some form of fundraising activities?

It really depends a lot on the organization. Of all the ones that would even think about training a dog for me, they all required payment of about $5000 - $6000 before you could take your dog home. Some do give dogs for free, others ask recipients to fundraise whatever amount they can. Generally, nonprofits that have been around a while are more likely to give the dog for free; those just starting out and those that are not 501(c)3 nonprofits generally ask for a larger amount.

And then there's the ripoff ones that ask for $50,000 for a dog that may or may not be trained. 
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